Solving Immigration in a Seceding State

Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood.
~ H. L. Mencken

Immigration in America is just another shining example of how the US Federal Government destroys everything it touches.

Immigration policy in America, at one time long ago, made some sense. But over the decades, various politicians have made exceptions to garner either territory, power or votes (all variations of power). Latinos are encouraged to enter the US without papers by the American businessmen who eagerly hire them. Children born of illegal parents are instantly awarded US citizenship simply because of the geographical location of their birth. Federal and state welfare programs give benefits to illegals. Public schools educate them. And many law enforcement agencies are forbidden from requiring proof of legal residence…or “profiling.”

My lifelong philosophy has been “don’t listen to what they say…only watch what they DO.” So, America, from the White House to your house…wants illegals in the USA. Consequently, experts estimate that there are now between 12 and 20 million illegal aliens living here. I don’t believe that there is any stomach in America…or enough money…to actually round up and deport 12-20 million illegals. And, there is no mechanism whereby this “roundup” could ever occur.

Apply my life philosophy to the Latinos coming to America. There are jobs and government benefits to be had here for the asking. That would be enough motivation for most people. But there is some history here that complicates things.

Here’s a map from 1848 showing the cession of Mexico after the Mexican War of 1846-1848. Notice that Mexican territory ran all the way to the southern border of the Oregon Territory and east to the borders of the Louisiana Purchase, including all of Texas.

Mexico's former borders

Maps and borders are drawn by governments as they divide and conquer. But a line on a map does not divide cultures. What’s true about the Pashtun tribe in Pakistan and Afghanistan is just as true in the Southwest USA. Latinos have not forgotten that most of southwestern United States once was their land.

I’ve written recently HERE and HERE about the immigration issues plaguing Arizona. But even those articles don’t fix the problem. So, what are practical solutions to the headache of illegal immigration? What could a seceding state, becoming a new nation, do to fix this problem?

1. The first solution is the creation of the new government. If the new government is of the corporate model of governance, there is a structure to build on. Citizenship is voluntary, never automatic for anyone.
2. Seal the border between that state/nation and Mexico. This will require a state militia which none of the states except TEXAS presently have.
3. The new immigration laws codify the process of becoming a citizen. Part of that is allowing illegals presently in the nation to report to the county Sheriff’s office or county courthouse and declare their presence, and plead guilty of a misdemeanor. The fine will be $500 payable in only gold or silver (or Egold or Esilver). At that point, the illegal will have the one-time choice of either becoming a citizen by paying one dollar and receiving one share of the national stock…or filing papers for resident alien status, both subject to a criminal background check. Parents would have to file for resident alien status for their children until the children reached age 18. That should be the only amnesty program necessary to effectively deal with the problem and allow the new nation to move forward. It also raises hard money to pay for the amnesty program.
4. Make English the official national language. That means that all government communications of any sort will be in English. Schools, books, forms, traffic signs, legal papers…everything official is in English. If the free market wants to promote any other language, OK. By encouraging immigrants to learn to read and write English, they are not assigned to being in a permanent underclass. But remember, at the southern border of the southwestern US border states, the culture is predominantly Latino. “English only” does not force anyone to forsake their culture, but smoothes the path to achievement and assimilation.
5. Once this program has been competed, then deport the remaining persons found to be in the new nation illegally.
6. Enact NO LAW that establishes the minimum wage. Much of the hiring of illegals is done to avoid minimum wage laws. Wages are supposed to represent the cost of labor for any goods or services. The only so-called “living wage” exists when your income equals or exceeds your outgo. Price controls imposed by government have NEVER worked positively. The minimum wage forces prices upward artificially, and that affects EVERY person’s wallet.

Let’s face reality, my friends. You and your neighbors want cheap labor for menial jobs. Businesses want the cheap labor. And most people don’t care a whit about immigration issues. Lots of talk…little action.

That’s MY solution. Probably needs work. You got a better idea?

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© Copyright 2010, Russell D. Longcore. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.

9 Responses to Solving Immigration in a Seceding State

  1. […] Immigration in a Seceding State Posted on June 2, 2010 by Bill Miller This article by Russell D. Longcore on So, what are practical solutions to the headache of illegal immigration? What could a seceding […]

  2. no, No, NO!

    You cannot have a free market with it’s mandatory and necessary free movements and at the same time have some nazi-style police-state human identification program.

    Look…humans are either free or they are prisoners. They are either free to live peacefully with each other or they aren’t. They are either free to commerce, produce, think, and labor or they aren’t.

    The simple solution to human interaction is the philosophically mature non-aggression principle and total respect for the most common basic human rights of Life, Liberty, and Property.

    Once you demand to tag, mark, and catalog humans you’ve become a nazi of some kind…sexist, racist, nationalist…some kind of mental sickness or another.

    Your proposed solution goes completely against the non-aggression principle and what Clint Eastwood says about peaceful human interaction which is Everybody Leaves Everybody Else Alone.

    When one group or gang is allowed to demand papers from another individual or group then we have a problem. There can be no peace while neighbors are kicking each others doors in and pushing them around and stealing and robbing and kidnapping and raping and enslaving and murdering. Get the picture and get with the program. Put yourself on the other side of any aggressive actions or demands and see how that act then measures up to your wishes, desires, and expectations!

    Come on people! We shouldn’t need to school you folks on putting the shoe on the other foot…your momma should have done that years ago.

    To wit…
    The prisons we built now imprison us.
    The chains and shackles we forged now hold us hostage.
    The munitions we assembled are now poised and pointed upon us.
    The tagging and identifying of others…so that they might be permitted to be neighbors amongst us…has now become tagging, identifying, and microchipping of every human permitted to continue to live and breathe, and exist on the planet.

    Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
    John and Dagny Galt
    Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)


    • Nathan McMurray says:

      While I agree with your premise, I have to caution on the use of hyperbole,which is emotionally charged language usually enacted to elicit an emotionally charged response. Immigration is probably one of the biggest “hot button” issues around and we need to make sure that we in the pro-secession community are engaging in only rational and intelligent discussion about the issue because it IS an emotional subject. Whichever state is brave enough to secede will need to do something. I believe that ending minimum wage would go a LONG WAY towards addressing the issue. But when you talk about human rights issues and nationality (especially “naturalized citizens”) it’s important to pin point exactly what makes you uncomfortable. Because we aren’t talking about cataloging and dehumanizing individuals, merely giving illegal immigrants the opportunity to (quite easily in my opinion) become a citizen or at least a LEGAL resident alien, which I think is something everyone can support.

      Incidentally, rather than tear down Russ’ idea what would you suggest to put in it’s place? It is a subject that would need to be addressed for the new nation and Russ’ solution seems to be more free-market based than any others I have come across.

      • Sovereign human beings do not need some supposed papers or permission to enjoy and maintain and be secure in their basic human rights of LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PROPERTY.

        Not sure what you feel needs added to that…

        Seems repetitious to define and explain sovereignty, basic-human-rights, life, liberty, property.

        What part of no don’t the looters understand?

        What part of shall not infringe isn’t clear?

        And the biggest question of all:

        Who will the looters loot when looters are all that are left to loot?

        Thank you for your thoughtful response!

        Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
        John and Dagny Galt
        Starving The Monkeys, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)


    • dumpdc says:

      To the Galts:
      Utopian libertarianism sounds wonderful, but in a secession, no state is going to make that jump. NO STATE. So, acknowledging political reality, my immigration idea makes sense. Remember, whatever might work is politically impossible, and whatever is politically possible won’t work.

      • The unattainable utopia claim is disingenuous at best.

        There is absolutely nothing extraordinary in the fact that on a daily basis most humans interact peacefully with each other regardless of papers, tags, or microchips.

        To wit, the advent of Craigslist and a significant increase in personal trade/exchange/barter has most certainly NOT resulted in knee-deep blood in the streets. Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that any blood would be shed until such time as a group of thugs thought that they might get together and declare themselves a GUNvernment.

        Of course, no matter the costume, looters/bureaucrats/jackboots/mercenaries should all be refused/resisted/repelled/terminated for the peace and tranquility of each and every sovereign human being.

        As always, thank you for your thoughtful responses!

        Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
        John and Dagny Galt
        Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)


      • Old Rebel says:


        I’m with you. Not only must we acknowledge political reality, we have to acknowledge human nature and history as well.

        Secession is only a means to and end, not the end itself. The end is to perpetuate a way of life, and that includes the liberties associated with Western Civilization. If we are colonized by, say, Muslim militants who insist everyone live under sharia, then it’s bye-bye liberty — at least, the kind of liberty we would recognize.

        And the corrupt culture of Mexico is another alien way of life I do not wish to live under.

  3. Here is more commentary on peaceful voluntary human interaction:

    Sometimes we need to elaborate on the concept that nobody can or should be forced to interact and/or exchange with another.

    As an example I offer them scenarios like this:

    I relate:
    I’m the only brain surgeon in the world who can operate on a child and save their life. I charge one million dollars in
    gold for such an operation. I will not operate without prepayment and the child will most certainly die without it.
    Understandably, the parent is distraught and angry and in their frustration and hopelessness they put a gun to my head
    and demand that I operate. I calmly reply that, even with a gun at my head, they have absolutely no bargaining power.

    ***Mind you that as I’ve been relating this scenario to the person I’ve been looking deeply into their eyes and forging
    a burning, searing, connection. Then I ask them to consider and explain how the parent has erred.

    So you’re telling me that you are willing to die to stand firm on your refusal to operate without payment?

    Yes, and furthermore, why would you murder the only person who could possibly perform this operation successfully? What
    if your spouse becomes afflicted with the same ailment next week when the price for my services might be five dollars?

    ***Of course, about this time they are so confused and worked up that they can’t see straight, let alone think clearly.

    So you’re telling me that one day your price is a million dollars and next week it might be FIVE DOLLARS!?!?!

    Yes. That is the free market. That is how human beings voluntarily interact and exchange in a peaceful society. Each
    person values each exchange, contract, and transaction as they so choose and desire. Only a slave labors under the whip
    or the unpaid or underpaid dictates of another person. Which is exactly why BOTH minimum wage laws AND maximum wage laws
    continue to create and maintain poverty, hunger, misery, and oppression.

    Them…still shrieking:
    I don’t give a shit what you say! You’re insane! You’re absolutely crazy! You’re going to operate TODAY for five dollars
    or I’m going to shoot you in the head right here, right now.

    So…what you’re saying is that you want a crazy, insane slave to perform life-or-death brain surgery on your child AT

    Them…eyes really wide open now…shrieking wildly:

    Ok, let’s say I agree under duress, can you explain how you’re going to hold the hospital, staff, and the rest of the
    operating personnel all at gunpoint at the same time? Now we’re further establishing that…not only do you demand that
    a crazy, insane slave perform surgery at gunpoint for five dollars…but now you’re acknowledging that you’re willing to
    force dozens of people to become slaves via gunpoint as well?

    Them…eyes bloodshot, mouth foaming…spittle spraying…in an evil, demonic, throaty rasp:

    Ok. Time’s up. Who’s the crazy person here? Do you even hear what you’re saying? What you’re doing? What you’re thinking?

    Me…opening up my coat to review twin pistols in a nice twin, shoulder-rig:
    Not only do you have a dying child and perhaps a dying spouse…but you are a crazy, delusional, deranged, insane person
    with a gun threatening to murder dozens of human beings if they all don’t do exactly what you desire. Give me one reason
    not to refuse, resist, repel, destroy, and eliminate you immediately?

    Me…pulling five bucks from my pocket:
    Here’s five bucks. Now you and your spouse take your gun and your son and go try to find another hospital full of crazy,
    insane slaves to do your bidding at gunpoint and at threat of murder…Atlanta General is down the street and we hear
    the Great Savior Obamanator is performing miracles there today…bus route fourteen should get you there.

    Furthermore, while you’re there…tell the Grand Wizard Obamanator that there are no slaves here at Liberty General and
    that His Lordship and his Royal CON-gress-critter Underlings can take their Universal Healthcare and Single-Payer
    bullshit and go straight to hell…do not pass go…do not collect ANYTHING…just straight to hell IMMEDIATELY.

    Which reminds me of this:

    Because one of my variations scenarios is to have the cure for cancer as opposed to life-saving brain surgery…

    Works the same either way…

    And my story is closer to the truth and closer to happening than most folks would care to admit:

    What’s more, for three meals a day, one shower per day, health and dental care, Laundry privileges, and a cot in the
    basement…I’ll be providing security services at Liberty General any day now…hahaha! Of course I’ll be varying my
    costumes…patients, doctors, nurses, priests, janitors, tv repairman…you name it…I could be anybody…hahaha!

    Doctors participating in cash discounts:

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